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先說(shuō)明一下情況。水凝膠材料，沒(méi)有加入化學(xué)交聯(lián)劑，文章名字用到了multi-physically cross-linking，就是在多糖在加一些其他東西，常規(guī)而平庸的制備（性質(zhì)和已報(bào)道的相比確實(shí)不是很好），剪斷后室溫自愈很慢，需要給予溫度（60度）刺激才能提高速度。具有自恢復(fù)，室溫一小時(shí)不到能恢復(fù)。2000%左右斷裂。不出意外，投稿后送審，四個(gè)審稿人。 首次受到審稿意見，其中三個(gè)人的意見中肯，修改就可以接收。第四個(gè)審稿審稿人意見貼上（前面部分原先沒(méi)保留，反正就是拒稿的意思）： In the preparation of hydrogel, the authors have described the use of APS. If I am not wrong, APS is a radical initiators in the polymerization of alkenes. It completely contradicts with their title, while "multi-physically cross-linking" is the major focus of this work. If a physically crosslinked polymer could be so stretchable, that would be really striking, if not revolutionary. - I don’t think that the authors can call the materials self-healing, just as not calling them "without any chemical cross-linkers". It is a covalent network, thus stretchable, but not self-healing. If such a stretchable material can be self-healing, that will be really extraordinary. - The authors did not describe what is the chemical basis of their polymer design in the introduction, which is also reflected by the vague synthesis scheme of figure 1A. In my view, these are serious problems, thus I would not suggest its publication. response后提交后再次送審，三人接收，第四個(gè)依然有質(zhì)疑，再次回復(fù)： Although the authors have removed "Multi-physically crosslinked" in the title, the description of "physical, non-covalent interactions" appears many times in the article. There is certainly physical non-covalent interaction in the gel, as in any polymer system, but it is the covalent bonds making it stretchable, which is the major focus of this work. Moreover, self-healing, as a rheological term, does not mean that you cut a piece into two and can put them together. Self-healing, in rheology, means that a broken network can reform, and should be characterized by Rheometers such as continuous step strain measurements. It is very unlikely that the covalent network can be self-healing. Moreover, even according to their definition of self-healing, I would not call a recovery of property at 60 degree after 24 hours as self-healing. ps：應(yīng)對(duì)方要求補(bǔ)了流變，60℃下做的振蕩（因?yàn)榭紤]到是在這個(gè)溫度下進(jìn)行的自愈），圖譜也是常規(guī)那種自愈圖譜。審稿意見中引了很多鎖志剛、龔建萍、趙選賀這些大牛們的文章和工作作為輔證。也引入了一些用外力幫助自愈的文章合理化溫度的刺激 response后，編輯只送了第四個(gè)審稿人，對(duì)方也再次回復(fù)： I still think that most of the mechanical features of the materials are from the covalent network. The gel is also highly stretchable, while the improvement upon adding the Q component can also be achieved by tuning the SMA and AA ratio and concentration. The only benefit of adding gum is to improve the conductivity. However, the authors have not performed any thorough impedance measurements. （整篇文章沒(méi)有什么涉及和電相關(guān)的東西，只不過(guò)在最后加上了一些wearable sensor的內(nèi)容） The new continuous step strain measurements, which were performed at 60 degree, in my opinion, prove that the stretchable material is NOT self-healing. (I assume that the same recovery could not be measured at room temperature). You cannot perform the stretching experiment at room temperature and the self-healing experiment at 60 degree, which are two different materials. Other people's misleading claims cannot be a justification. 弄來(lái)弄去。我自己都懵了，不知道該如何去應(yīng)付這個(gè)人。 特別是“Other people's misleading claims cannot be a justification.”（都是鎖志剛、趙選賀之類的大牛。。。）直接推翻了這個(gè)領(lǐng)域的一切。。。上次審稿意見中寫了那么多，說(shuō)了那么多，到頭來(lái)還是“I still think that most of the mechanical features of the materials are from the covalent network.”這東西，連實(shí)驗(yàn)都不好證明。 吐槽歸吐槽，對(duì)于這個(gè)審稿人，真的很無(wú)力，只能老老實(shí)實(shí)的補(bǔ)上室溫的流變，室溫的自愈的照片。其他的部分，回復(fù)再多感覺(jué)也是沒(méi)用的，審稿人已經(jīng)有自己認(rèn)為的那一套了，很難再聽進(jìn)去什么。 有沒(méi)有蟲友有類似經(jīng)驗(yàn)，給些建議什么的，在這謝謝了。 |
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